For years there has been debate about whether show type is relevant to the commercial producer. But more recently the deeper question is coming up that asks if type itself in any form matters anymore.
This issue was further highlighted by our extremely popular interview with Don Bennink (Read more: North Florida Holsteins: Aggressive, Progressive and Profitable!!) where he made the following comments:
“Don feels that the current philosophy of the Holstein Association is very contrary to (profitability).” He gives three main targets that he seeks out as profitable. “High production with health traits and feed efficiency are our bywords. The present classification and type evaluation system are 180 degrees away from cattle that pay the bills. Bigger, taller, sharper doesn’t cut it. The latest correlation of final type score with stature is .77. Worse yet, the correlation of udder composite with stature is .59. That means if you breed 100% for udder composite, you will increase stature at more than half the rate that you would if you bred for stature alone.” There is only one conclusion for this dairy farmer. “The current 88 and 89 point 2 year olds are dysfunctional for the guy making milk for a living.”
Don also highlights:
“With the current correlation of .59 between udder composite and stature, it is not unusual to see the same udder scored good on a short or medium sized heifer that is very good on a tall heifer. No study including the ones done by Holstein show any real correlation of foot and leg composite with foot health or herd life. Bulls with +3.00 and +4.00 type proofs have daughters that are too big and too sharp for commercial dairymen. For this reason gTPI or TPI are essentially ignored in bull or female selection. Net Merit $ has some value.”
The question really becomes why do we evaluate type?
The ultimate reason for evaluating type is to predict longevity. In the Canadian LPI formula type is actually called durability. In the US TPITM formula type elements are used to calculate longevity. But then I ask why are we creating a composite index of other elements to help predict longevity when we actually have the data in Herd Life (CDN) and Productive Life (US)? This makes me ask what is the more accurate index? An index we have created based on evaluation of many subjective parts? Or is it more accurate when derived from the actual herd data on longevity? That data would show exactly how long a bull’s daughters last in a herd.
When you look at the current top twenty Productive Life sires over 95% reliability in the US, you notice that only 2 sires have a PTAT over 2 points (DE-SU OBSERVER and SILDAHL JETT AIR) and as a group they average 0.65 for PTAT. Even more alarming is that as a group they average 0.86 for UDC and 1.02 for F&L composite, two traits that are typically key in predicting longevity. On the other hand, relating directly to longevity they all have relatively high net merit scores, low somatic cell scores and, for the most part, are calving ease sires. Why the disconnect?
Name | Lbs. Milk | PL | SCS | CE | NM$ | PTAT | UDC | F&L C | TPI |
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DE-SU OBSERVER-ET | 1602 | 7.2 | 2.76 | 6 | 792 | 2.7 | 3.02 | 0.89 | 2332 |
HONEYCREST BOMBAY NIFTY-ET | 236 | 7.2 | 2.62 | 7 | 553 | -0.46 | -0.13 | 0.97 | 1810 |
POTTERS-FIELD KP LOOT-ET | 1004 | 7.2 | 2.68 | 7 | 650 | 0.08 | 1.71 | -0.24 | 1954 |
KELLERCREST BRET LANDSCAPE | 81 | 7.1 | 2.36 | 8 | 506 | 0.65 | 1.27 | 1.16 | 1838 |
WHITMAN O MAN AWESOME ANDY | 202 | 6.9 | 2.55 | 5 | 754 | 0.32 | -0.17 | 1.21 | 2063 |
ZIMMERVIEW BRITT VARSITY-ET | 410 | 6.8 | 2.62 | 6 | 668 | 0.71 | -0.47 | 1.55 | 2013 |
CLEAR-ECHO NIFTY TWIST-ET | 942 | 6.8 | 2.62 | 8 | 748 | -0.32 | -0.42 | 1.17 | 2039 |
KED OUTSIDE JEEVES-ET | 355 | 6.8 | 2.83 | 10 | 515 | 1.37 | 0.97 | 1.74 | 1913 |
ENSENADA TABOO PLANET-ET | 2216 | 6.7 | 2.98 | 6 | 721 | 1.93 | 1.44 | -0.47 | 2176 |
GOLDEN-OAKS GUTHRIE-ET | 1078 | 6.7 | 2.78 | 6 | 535 | -1.15 | -1.24 | 0.36 | 1728 |
DALE-PRIDE MANFRED ALFIE | 519 | 6.6 | 2.96 | 6 | 461 | -0.63 | -0.36 | -0.01 | 1702 |
LAESCHWAY JET BOWSER 2-ETN | 200 | 6.5 | 2.84 | 7 | 455 | 1.62 | 2.03 | 1.83 | 1940 |
ELKENDALE DIE-CAST-ET | -872 | 6.5 | 2.72 | 6 | 370 | 0.68 | 1.85 | 1.99 | 1718 |
LAESCHWAY JET BOWSER-ET | 200 | 6.5 | 2.84 | 7 | 455 | 1.62 | 2.03 | 1.83 | 1940 |
BADGER-BLUFF FANNY FREDDIE | 1236 | 6.4 | 2.7 | 5 | 779 | 1.57 | 1.6 | 2.87 | 2292 |
CABHI AUSTIN POTTER-ET | 151 | 6.4 | 2.81 | 6 | 520 | 0.05 | 0.41 | 0.02 | 1766 |
CABHI MOOSE-ET | 45 | 6.4 | 2.64 | 6 | 373 | 0.18 | 0.3 | 1.11 | 1625 |
SILDAHL JETT AIR-ET | 1118 | 6.3 | 2.64 | 6 | 644 | 2.88 | 2.26 | 2.91 | 2168 |
SPRING-RUN CAMDEN | -67 | 6.2 | 2.91 | 7 | 433 | 0.57 | 1.79 | 0.6 | 1762 |
KERNDT MAXIE GOLDSTAR-ET | 199 | 6.2 | 2.57 | 6 | 449 | -1.28 | -0.61 | -0.96 | 1631 |
The Canadian story is not that much different. When you look at the top 35 sires with CDN proofs, only 3 sires (CRACKHOLM FEVER, TRAMILDA-N ESCALADE and SILDAHL JETT AIR-ET) are over 10 for Conformation and all have relatively low SCS. In fact NORZ-HILL FORM WIZARD who is tied for the top proven Herd Life sire in Canada is -3 for conformation, -4 for feet and legs and -10 for dairy strength. And as a group the sires average only +3 for conformation, +4 for Mammary System, +3 for Feet and Legs and -2 for dairy strength.
Name | LPI | Milk | Conf | MS | F&L | DS | HL | SCS |
---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|
CRACKHOLM FEVER | 2797 | 620 | 15 | 13 | 13 | 7 | 117 | 2.63 |
NORZ-HILL FORM WIZARD-ET | 1914 | 521 | -3 | 0 | -4 | -10 | 117 | 2.57 |
TRAMILDA-N ESCALADE-ET | 2595 | 693 | 13 | 7 | 12 | 6 | 115 | 2.69 |
RAMOS | 2396 | 201 | 3 | 5 | 4 | -4 | 115 | 2.52 |
DUDOC BACCULUM | 1630 | -527 | 0 | 9 | -1 | -10 | 115 | 2.95 |
SILDAHL JETT AIR-ET | 2824 | 1292 | 12 | 10 | 11 | 7 | 114 | 2.64 |
BADGER-BLUFF FANNY FREDDIE | 2985 | 1717 | 5 | 8 | 5 | -5 | 113 | 2.74 |
WESSELCREST BAXTER ASHER | 2487 | -119 | 9 | 9 | 8 | 7 | 113 | 2.64 |
KEYSTONE POTTER | 1933 | 1100 | 1 | 4 | -1 | -4 | 113 | 2.91 |
BOSS IRON ET | 1925 | -720 | 6 | 6 | 1 | 4 | 113 | 2.74 |
RUBIS LOTUS | 1908 | -514 | 9 | 9 | 1 | 4 | 113 | 2.79 |
JOHNIE FRANCIS | 1754 | -561 | -2 | -1 | -3 | -4 | 113 | 2.59 |
BARKA FETICHE | 1009 | -1793 | -14 | -11 | -14 | -13 | 113 | 2.47 |
GEN-I-BEQ ALTABUZZER | 2748 | 1417 | 6 | 4 | 8 | 0 | 112 | 2.82 |
HEATHERSTONE-V MCGUIRE-ET | 2570 | 1417 | 9 | 11 | 8 | 5 | 112 | 2.67 |
MICHERET INFRAROUGE | 2521 | 710 | 7 | 8 | 11 | -1 | 112 | 2.66 |
DUDOC RADIUS | 2518 | 1344 | 4 | 2 | 6 | 0 | 112 | 2.67 |
RALMA CARRIBEAN-ET | 2501 | 756 | 6 | 3 | 7 | 3 | 112 | 2.74 |
SANDY-VALLEY DEPUTY-ET | 2424 | 801 | 5 | 6 | 5 | -3 | 112 | 2.37 |
HASS-ACRES BRAVEHEART | 2225 | 639 | 5 | 7 | 4 | 1 | 112 | 2.68 |
KED OUTSIDE JEEVES-ET | 2216 | 580 | 4 | 4 | 3 | -2 | 112 | 2.99 |
SHAWNEE ALTASTRATOS-ET | 2209 | 186 | 7 | 10 | 5 | -4 | 112 | 2.51 |
DESLACS DUSTER | 2134 | 159 | 8 | 8 | 11 | -2 | 112 | 2.83 |
MARKWELL DUCKETT-ET | 2094 | 117 | 3 | 7 | 8 | -9 | 112 | 2.71 |
KLASSIC BILLBOARD | 2033 | 618 | 1 | -1 | 0 | -2 | 112 | 2.68 |
WHITTAIL-VALLEY COOPER-ET | 2015 | 461 | 2 | 3 | 4 | -7 | 112 | 2.61 |
BONACCUEIL LORD | 1954 | 696 | 0 | 3 | -2 | -4 | 112 | 2.64 |
FLEURY LOTION | 1883 | 963 | 0 | -1 | 3 | -6 | 112 | 3.11 |
GRASSHILL CAREW | 1824 | -12 | -4 | -1 | -3 | -4 | 112 | 2.68 |
CEDARWAL TAIT | 1816 | -985 | 0 | 4 | 0 | -6 | 112 | 2.55 |
CANCO ARMAGEDDON | 1664 | 254 | -8 | -10 | -7 | -3 | 112 | 2.73 |
JACOBS EMAIL | 1642 | -1179 | -6 | -2 | -4 | -12 | 112 | 2.65 |
HILLCROFT MAJESTIC | 1396 | -952 | 4 | 2 | 2 | 2 | 112 | 2.61 |
CLAYNOOK GARNET | 1319 | -431 | -5 | -5 | -4 | -3 | 112 | 2.89 |
HENKESEEN NIGHTSTORM | 1238 | -1215 | -2 | -1 | 3 | -4 | 112 | 2.78 |
I have always been a big proponent for type classification (Read more: Is Type Classification Still Important? and Tom Byers: “That’s Classified!”). My father ran the Canadian system for many years. But I now find myself asking “Are we missing the mark?”
The Bullvine Bottom Line
For years I have heard commercial producers tell me that they don’t care as much about type and that it’s the seed stock breeders that are putting all the emphasis on type. The thing is, as Don points out, “the function of a seed stock producer is to produce the animal that is the most profitable for the commercial dairyman.” If that is the case are we as seed stock producers missing the mark by emphasizing type sires? In today’s free agent bull market, it is more profitable to have a sire that sells well in the commercial market than just in the pedigree market. Should we work to have the correlation between PTAT /Conformation with Herd Life/Productive Life as high as possible, as that is the whole point in evaluating type traits?
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